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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 8:49:52 
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zex why mu pitch is wrong?It is not true why my shawsplate it is inverted.
See for yourself and tell me if I did well or not
When the shawshplate goes high i have negative pitch (is reversed compared to other trex I know)
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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 8:54:56 
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Now I can see. In your case settings is correct.
But is there any good reason why you have it not according manual and differently than the most other models?
It also look like there is not ideal swashplate to rotor blade mixing ratio and also not ideal servo to swashplate - you can see all the pushrods that are not perpendicular from servo.
Is your rotor head "modified" from Flybar head?

This will certainly affect Geometry 6° value and I am unsure if you can achieve correct settings there.

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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 8:57:30 
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It seems that the blade grips are rotated 180 and that becomes a trailing edge not a leading edge. I don't believe that this is how it should be assembled.


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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 9:01:59 
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In other words this could be another reason why performance is not ideal. GeoLink functions are doing precise corrections and are tested with normal models.
I can't say it is reason why it does not work for you well but I can see it as at least one reason that will make it all less precise. Because by having such strange mixing ratios corrections must be also different and much more gentle.

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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 9:02:37 
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franz88 wrote:
zex why mu pitch is wrong?It is not true why my shawsplate it is inverted.
See for yourself and tell me if I did well or not
When the shawshplate goes high i have negative pitch (is reversed compared to other trex I know)
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But you have the rods reversed to the holders of the main blades. It is better to mount it as the manual / pictures of most FBL heads have it.

https://www.google.com/search?q=align+500+fbl+head&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjRxfyx1tj-AhW8nycCHcfFCkAQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=align+500+fbl+head&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDIECCMQJ1AAWABgy8IHaAJwAHgAgAFZiAGlAZIBATKYAQCqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=xhNSZNHKHLy_nsEPx4urgAQ

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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 14:31:49 
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I know
but this head he can't turn his hands of 180 degrees why would touch the screw.
Since English is not my language it's a bit difficult to make a speech but Therefore you think that if i take spirit rs and geolink I mount them in the other helicopter (trex 600l dominator) will the altitude limit work correctly?
the other helicopter has a standard head
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I can take the control unit and mount it on the other helicopter.
But in my opinion this is not it, but I could also be wrong.
To me the software reports 6 degrees of cyclic
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and if I measure with digital pitch gauge measure for elevator 7 degrees
for aileron 8 degrees.

6 precise degrees from the tab LIMITS - CYCLIC RING they don't match exact exact with digital pitch gauge(7degrees for elevator and 8 degrees for aileron) but I mounted a spirit gt on a trex 600 with flybar and there is a difference there too.
I can only tell you that my geolink it has the laser hole closed why I mounted it on a flat surface but you told me it wasn't a problem.
I believe than during maneuvers the barometer has problems.
But you are the expert on spirit and geolink.
And you say than in other models even if they do 3d flight, does the altitude limit work well?


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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 15:58:34 
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I would focus on your high vibrations, try to eliminate them (replace shafts, bearings...)

6 precise degrees from the tab LIMITS - CYCLIC RING they don't match exact exact with digital pitch gauge ....

we think that 6 degrees is not enough, the normal value is an average of 10-12 degrees in LIMITS / CYCLIC RING
6 degrees need to be set in the ADVANCED TAB / Geometry 6° (tuning)


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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 17:13:30 
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I also think it's a few 6 degrees but following the video from the official Italian dealer of spirit I set 6 degrees.
I don't want to name whose is it because I don't want any problems.
Usually if of collective use 12 degrees
of cyclic I use 8 or 10 degrees about.
To have a difference from software to real degrees could be this operation.

I move collective pitch in LIMITS and after
in SERVO- SERVO TRAVEL CORRECTIONS i click setup and i move servo 1 2 and 3 during positive pitch and negative pitch for have +12 and -12 precise degrees.
Is exact this procedure?

but i have to say that the problem occurs when I fly aggressively, during quiet flight the altitude at which it is activated it's always the same.
Or i can compare it with rescue automatic of spirit gt I think they are the same thing.
Can I ask if you have tried with a pilot 3d or only with normal flight?
I took spirit, geolink radio jeti only for rescue automatic.
To pass the fear of crashing and now the model is safe it activates at a higher height but the model is safe.
And i i just tried Variable Hard Deck altitude with on1
I might as well try Fixed Hard Deck altitude with on2
For vibration they are a lot and i changed almost everything but it depends on the rpm
2700rpm is 70/100/120 % if i set 2800rpm the vibration they increase a lot if I lower the rpm they lower the vibrations


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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 20:48:55 
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Can you explain to me that 6 degrees thing?
I put 6 degrees of cyclic I usually use 10 degrees


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 Post subject: Re: spirit rs help
PostPosted: Wed 03. May 2023 21:13:07 
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After doing the servos subtrim you need to set the Geometry (6 degree).

So, after you have leveled your swash and trimmed your servos, go to Advanced - Geometry 6 degree, and increase or decrease the value until your pitch gauge shows exactly 6 degrees (while the blades are parallel with the heli). This calibration is important so be sure that while in servos subtrim your pitch gauge shows 0 and after that in Geometry 6 degrees shows 6 degrees (do not move the heli so that you have a good reference for the pitch gauge).


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